Feminists response to all of this is to blame the fucking Patriarchy.
And I’m supposed to stop using the word “feminazi?” I don’t know, they’re talking about genocide and eugenics an awful lot.
why can you tedious little pissants not be critical of this shit without falling back on your lazy, hyperbolic, and mind numbingly insulting nazi comparisons?
like, yeah, a lot of this shit is rude, goes far beyond the idea of cathartic expressions of frustration at misogyny, and parts of it do play into certain harmful attitudes in our society that do affect men (the comments on the circumcision issue are particularly obnoxious), as well as wider issues of rape culture and so on.
but these are issues completely distinct from nazism, and they are not comparable with actual genocide and eugenics.
incidentally, i count the word “feminist” once in the above photoset. not all women are feminists, and a collection of some women saying horrible things is not a valid critique of feminism.
Well. One could draw comparisons to how the Nazis first indoctrinated people into hating a group and blaming it for all their ills.
It’s it lazy intellectually? Maybe. But it’s it wrong when you look at what the Nazis started as and what they became?
There are parallels in dehumanizing and “othering” a group. Making it the scapegoat. Etc.
Not all feminists are like this, but this kind of attitude and these things being said are far too common in the movement. If not “kill all men” then twisting every social issue into how women are the real victims and men, or male society, are the real perpetrators.
Look at the most popular feminist website Jezebel for what I mean. They defended a woman who sung “cry me a river” to male suicide statistics. Refusing to admit she made any mistakes at all. Or that she cheered the law being broken to silence a group saying things they didn’t like. (Which they weren’t even right about what that group was saying)
Will it ever hit genocide and warfare? No. But there’s a fair number parallels.
Not every invocation of “nazi” is wholly inaccurate.
mate, your arguments are thinner than graphene.
not maybe intellectually lazy. it categorically is intellectually lazy. the nazis specifically targeted minority groups in society, blamed them for the troubles in germany at the time - with absolutely no evidence to back those claims up - and directly targeted these groups with extermination as being a reasonable way to improve german society.
and these weren’t just particular nazis who happened to twist the ideology for bad purposes - these things, these ideas of jewish people and other groups being literally vermin, the plans to expand out into eastern europe to create space for a greater german empire, were inherent traits of nazism. all these things are set out in the central text of nazism mein kampf.
compare this to feminism - a diverse set of political and social movements, that span a wide range of time and place. you have liberal feminism, radical feminism, marxist feminism, ecofeminism, and so on. there is no central text of feminism, there is nothing inherent to feminism itself that focuses on dehumanising and othering men, there is no leader of the feminist movement directly calling for men to literally be exterminated like rats.
so, yeah, you can highlight examples of feminists being bad people. there are plenty of critiques to be had of the various branches of feminism, and it’s important to discuss these things.
but if you give these subjects the respect they deserve, if you actually study nazism and feminism to a reasonable level, there is no comparison to be had. none whatsoever.
and here’s the thing, if feminism is as bad as you say it is - those criticisms should be able to stand up on their own merits. nobody talks about stalinist russia as being stalinazis. nobody talks about maoism as being maonazism. these things are bad enough on their own.
if you are resorting to a lazy comparison like feminazi it portrays the picture that you don’t actually have any weight to your argument - you are just doing it for the shock value, playing on the relatively widespread public awareness of the nazis crimes.
it does a disservice to the victims of the holocaust and world war 2. it does a disservice to the survivors and their descendents, who continue to have to fight for recognition and respect. it trivialises the actual existence of neo-nazis today - especially notable in places like hungary and greece, but disturbingly widespread across all of europe. it’s an insulting and reductive view of feminism, failing to acknowledge it’s diversity and the differing motivations behind feminism and nazism. finally, it discredits your own arguments - because as i have said, there are valid criticisms of feminism, there are valid arguments supporting the existence of a men’s rights movement - but nazi comparisons will cause people to dismiss your arguments out of hand, so it’s not even in your own interests to justify the use of the word ‘feminazi’.
and yeah, not every invocation of ‘nazi’ is inaccurate - which is why it’s especially important to avoid the inaccurate ones (such as feminazi) because it trivialises and marginalises those comparisons that are fair to make.
one of the reasons why im tired on being on tumblr and seeing all the ‘straight white men’ jokes (and including just the ‘straight’ ‘white’ and ‘men’ jokes separate) is because it leads to bullshit like this at the extreme.
a terrible person is a terrible person and rubbing one out over an inflated ego doesn’t equal ‘standing up for minorities!!’